Calgary, AB All in mortal sin? The priest claimed that his superior forbid him from submitting to fingerprinting and that out of obedience he had to refuse to follow the diocesan policy. FSSP pastors are . I dont say any of this as a criticism of those attending and supporting SSPX chapels, or even their clergy, which also includes some fine priests. dear rich, We can end the discussion on this subject . So let me go on record here by saying that I will gladly sit with Michael Voris on a live program to discuss specific reasons why no Catholic should ever be forced to sign off on Vatican II as an integral part of tradition.. As I am not a malicious person, I suppose I will simply be ignorant in the public eye now. By contrast, what has Michael done relative to his new understanding? You do not have a right to hear anymore from me. Oklahoma City, OK Getting information out of Poland was very difficult for a long time. And Taylor was hardly the only former staffer to have concerns about how the college was run. No I didnt. Since I am not under religious vows, my opportunities for disobedience are rather limited, since I otherwise adhere to all traditional teachings of the Church. Fr. As you say, hopefully someday he will be humble enough to admit his error. For these past years weve all been discussing how Pope Francis couldnt care less about dogma, doctrine, rules and rubrics. Edmonton, AB I hope all you FSSP faithful and supporters remember this when you are putting the envelope in the basket on Sunday. That said, I do no wish to engage you there, but others might want to- with regard to this. I give you credit. New Priest Assignments Announced. Positively, perspective and vigor can also be reclaimed by personal initiative and vigilance to make sure we do not get into ruts with the things that are supposed to be most important, that we are mindful of the obvious in such matters (kind of ironic when you hear it said that way). The details of this local conflict arent important, but what is important to know is that Fr. El Paso, TX De maria. All that said, I found it very unfortunate that Bishop Olson yanked away the TLM without providing any alternative using his own resources, either at the college or within reasonable proximity to it. 3 options 1. Holy Trinity Location: 219 N.W. Ive done that in this space many times, speaking of how I once naively believed one thing about the Council, the Mass and even the SSPX, only to have my eyes opened to the truth. That said, we all have differing personalities, ways of expressing ourselves that can even vary from day to day. Since becoming a sedevacantist, I have broken contact w/many of my family who consider themselves to be traditional catholics even as they stopped believing in confession when they were in college, attended mass whenever they feel like it, but always go to communion, are sterilized, use birth control, are divorced and remarried, are pro-abortion, are pro-homosexual marriage, dont believe anyone is going to hell, believe everyone is saved w/out being baptized or Catholic, are married to unbaptized persons, never go to mass, raise their children w/these values, never prayed the rosary with their children who are now 35 etc. Gemma Bradac is an All Saints parishioner located in Hudson, WI, willing to travel up to 30 minutes for a family. LiveMass.Net This comes about in various ways. In one such frame, a building that houses a ladder company is on fire, and as the employees look out from a third story window, the caption has them wishing how they could find a way to climb down. If left unchecked, we find ourselves in a rut where it seems we are just spinning the wheels; meaning about things that should be important gets confused, or even lost, and a frustration with life begins to set in. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. We here at Church Militant have one concern here: Despite stupid claims that we are doing this for money, we are concerned about the souls of our fellow Catholics. Peace be to you. Do they care? In reality, it is far more likely the case that it was used with permission, tacit or otherwise, thanks perhaps to Terry Carroll and his Mater Dei connection. ***All Catholics are called to charity toward neighbor. Back in the day, Voris, out of genuine concern for souls, used to lambaste the new Mass as a danger to the faith. Wolfe. heh-heh, point taken! . I hope Catholics will be protected from those responsible. All in all, the time table laid out herein is accurate. Im the same age as the Pope but even Fr. I hope those responsible both cleric and lay alike are made to pay for what they did there. ******** If you are going to give official platforms to statements rejecting the validity of Vatican II and the Pauline Missal without any public correction or disavowal, you have to be prepared to take the ecclesiastical consequences, whether theyre just or not. Stay away. Member of the traditionalist Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter. Thank you for discussing it. This is the depths to which mens minds can sink when they are not moored to the pursuit of truth. A distinction must be made when speaking about the FSSP. Many faithful Catholics couldnt take it anymore, so to speak, and simply left. North American Headquarters, South Abington Twp, PA In the event that a request were made in the future, the present restrictions on Father Sagutos ministry could only be lifted after our normal review process, which would have to include a recommendation from the Ministerial Review Board of the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis, Archbishop Hebda added. I am also friends with a few current and one former FSSP priest. Bergoglio [as he likes to call himself] doesnt understand Tradition. We are all fighting for the faith in one way or another. Liturgical Guides to the Seasons Nashua, NH Detraction is a sin where one reveals the true and secret fault of another without a good reason. But I realized, and it actually had nothing to do w/sedevacantism, that me and mine WERE Nancy Pelosi. Gerard Saguto (US District Superior) and Fr. Nor is it a challenge or personal attack on anyone reading this. ***That said, this includes those who wish to be Catholic. Visit https://sacredliturgyconference.org/ for information about the next conference and how to register. No the abandoning of Christ for the FSSP is a doctrinal matter: And then theres Archbishop Lefebvre, who was more than willing to work within diocesan and canonical frameworks when he erected the SSPX, and asked for nothing more than that when he met with Paul VI. And we must distinguish between the two. This detraction and extreme lack of charity to say nothing about factual errors has got to be challenged. Surely not all folks who are waking to the reality of the Counterfeit Church assume those who have already woken up are ipso facto smug? Will the FSSP issue a public statement in support of the SSPX and debunk the schism myth? Really? Over 160 bishops in your country and 6 in mine, along with dozens of others around the world have invited this Society of St. Peter into their diocese. Rapid City, SD Bishop Morlino who has ties to opus dei and the Jesuits he is also a friend of the FSSP who recently attacked the SSPX by promoting the myth that the SSPX Priests do not have supplied Jurisdiction. They are not coming out with press releases, video responses and challenges, threats to sue, etc. john6, Qubec, QC Do they disagree with Voris? Dear Scott, There are validly consecrated priests & bishops worldwide to shepherd & provide (valid-it must be noted,) Sacraments to the faithful by the thousands. the point central to the sedevacantist position -that being the Roman Catholic Religion. MEMORIALS. Hes been reassigned to be the parochial vicar at St. Joseph, the FSSP parish in Tyler, Texas. I suppose they have a natural virtue and would follow every rule even if they were protestants. Catholics are watching and waiting. The FSSP accepts the new mass and Vatican II. In truth, that the SSPX didnt actually run anywhere is the problem: South Bend, IN Lastly it is with Father Paul Nicholson, Father Nicholsons Bishop and opus dei. Baltimore, MD Brookville, IN It answers a lot of questions I had in my mind. EWTN's Raymond Arroyo recently interviewed two priests of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter (FSSP): Fr. I certainly never meant to give that impression nor do I wish to be smug and patronizing. The society rejects the second vatican council and the new mass although officially dont deny the validity of the sacraments as they are in the new rite. Vennari & I agree on (almost) nothing, obviouslybut I see that hes not gotten involved in this most recent Voris-shtick. Qubec, QC Christendom College will see three of its alumni ordained as priests this summer. Since the fruits got worse and worse he understood that he needed to protect souls and to warn them about the dangers to their Faith. If sedevacantist friends or family have done that to you, or anyone, its a shame. From what Louies stated himself, he welcomes all voices whether blunt, shy, up front, in your face or the opposite as well as the sedvacantist voice, as mine is. Father has done a 180 degree turn since his days in Kansas City, where I also was. Berg, Superior General of the FSSP, to be the new District Superior of North America, effective July 13, 2015. I remember every word and it is my expectation that Father Wolfe will find someone else to host all the sermons he has been preaching but have not been posted publicly since the sad split with Audio Sancto. Interesting insight. (2) Re: courage or lack thereof of FSSP priests, funniest thing I ever saw was on the Remnant pic of priest all decked out in battle fatigues including bush hat w/the headline Will You (i.e. In light of all that surrounds us, (the new annulment process, synod on the family, silence on sodomite marriage, etc.) Mr. David McWhirter, FSSP ('12), are all set to join the priesthood, with three other alumni becoming deacons as well. I read this blog daily.I may post here about 3 times a week, if that, and I would hardly consider what I do hijacking. South Bend, IN On its face, this isnt a difficult distinction to comprehend, but the reason so many find it difficult is very simple: As Catholics we are wired to follow our leaders, especially the pope, just as a child is wired to trust its mother. Ignorance is bliss. Finding little support, the faith infused at Baptism is stifled and choked by the thorns of the world, and it becomes easy to drift away. Kansas City/Westwood, KS It is also with the Bishops who do the ordinations for the FSSP. Fresno, CA Barbara, A cardinal such as Cardinal Burke should speak the truth no matter what the modernist destroyers want. I will not take it any further than that here, with respect to Louies request to engage in sedevacantist disussions at length not here, but in the forums. Sure, we believe in what the Church proposes for us to believe because it comes from Jesus Christ, but that needs to penetrate more deeply and be pulled in from its ethereal orbit around our souls. Search. (I also think Drumms defense of the Dudley affair is unpersuasive. The abandoning took place with the founding document ecclesia dei in 1988 and was made more clear in 2003 with the FSSP constitutions. Likewise he used to criticize the Council for its abject failures. Subjectively, the pope will recognize their jurisdiction at that point. ** Servant of Our Lady,, Can we just let Michael Voris get on with his shtick? I still hadnt found out who Fr. Even Pope St. Pius X refrained from making that kind of judgment against the modernists, even as he condemned them with great force in Pascendi. Presumably because (generally speaking) the FSSP priests avoid directly criticizing the dangers inherent in the new Mass and the Council (as Voris once did) as well as the words and deeds of the pope. Another is the fallen-nature blindness that affects us all and inclines us to take for granted things that we are used to: be it a spouse, family, friends, health, employment, position, or other things. Father Flood has served his term(s) and is more than ready to go back to parish work. Lets be clear these men (again, including the pope) are not synonymous with the Church; rather, they are, objectively speaking, laboring for her destruction. However, there are a couple of ways to regain perspective and renew vigor. To suggest in such a snide, sarcastic, evil way that these two movements by the FSSP are in any way related to the controversy here or on Church Militant is beyond the pale. The FSSP are bad actors. Saguto (FSSPDistrict Superior) 31 May 4:30pm St. Victor Church in Hollywood (Los Angeles) ORGANPROCESSIONAL Organist: Meaghan King 120. That is why the status of the SSPX is, at this time, technically an internal matter. Once there is a formal declaration of schism, it changes the rules of engagement from an internal to an external matter. Minneapolis, MN hi, scott, John 10:11], http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/1870-will-you-die-for-him-a-sermon-on-the-eve-of-persecution-in-america, (3) SSPX now that it is wanting to be in full communion w/heretics is pretty silent itself. Catholic families (WITH CHILDREN) have broken up because the FSSP Priest told Catholics they were not licitly married because they were married by a SSPX Priest. I have a great devotion to our lords most sacred heart i go mass first fridays make a few holy hours in the week recite the litany of sacred heart etc , i kept coming across the argument , its replacing devotion to the sacred heart which in my case wasnt true. These attacks are coming from the FSSP, opus dei and novus ordo clerics working with them. Our Lady of Guadalupe Seminary Clearly many of them have the Faith and are holy. Many Catholics, most Catholics, in fact, dont really know very much at all, if anything, about this group which has been around in one form or another since 1988, as one way of counting The Society came about in response, reaction to the overall weakening of the Church and many of Her leaders, which has been an ongoing process since the 1960s. It is indeed a shame that there is not a single fully traditional Catholic college in the country. ********** The reason I feel that way, my2cents, is because Ive held the position for decades, hence- bc of the timeframe-in my early years of mothering I met some of the original laity & priests who held the position (who BTW shall at this time remain nameless.) Following post talks about SSPX censorship of sermon criticizing Francis: Colorado Springs, CO Objectively, absolutely nothing will change whatsoever, which brings me back to Fr. The FSSP constitutions in 2003 bound the FSSP to the document that contains lies and heresy. Zachary Akers (FSSP Director of Development) on the Fraternity's new album, "Requiem". Please keep in mind that I am speaking only for myself. Their website didnt say where he was going. Therefore, the Church cannot be considered as something that stands between me and Christ, as so often is alleged. Dear Alarico, Under the standard of Christ? But when we try to support one when it does emerge, we have to be clear in holding them up to high standards of governance. Fr. If Catholics do not like these attacks on the SSPX your beef is with the FSSP and its superiors. God bless you. OBITUARIES. He refuses to engage the people he criticizes directly. The SSPX is not under the jurisdiction of the local bishop thats why they are able to talk freely about the council and the heresy of modernism that is rampant in the church today. Philip Wolfe, FSSP. Father Gerard Saguto, F.S.S.P. San Diego, CA (See above. Whatever happens in October affects not Holy Mother Church. Philadelphia, PA From Archbishop Bernard A. Hebda: I was notified Friday, November 8 that Father Gerard Saguto, FSSP, was recalled from his assignment as pastor of the Church of All Saints in Minneapolis by his religious community, the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter. This is part of a much longer and laborious dissertation on obedience that has all the markings of an Epistle from Terry Carroll to Ferndale. Barbara, The FSSP is wrong on the doctrine,principles and the new mass. In my experience Ive found them to be extremely obedient people who were obedient as children. I, for one, have found so many polite & dear empathetic souls here on Mr. V.s site who treat me wth tender kindness even on my worst days, and would never even think of bringin up my myriad flaws & throw them in my face. 3rd group those that choose only to attend TLM except for funerals weddings etc. Servant of our Lady this man was annouced dead by doctors ,was dead for 3 days http://youtu.be/jeTcee4YUQg Dallas, TX Berg celebrated a Low Mass at 6:30 a.m. that Saturday morning in the SEAS Chapel. . *** A couple decades ago I wrote for a very popular trad bi-monthly which I will not name, whose editor said a now famous statement: You can tell they are Catholics by their hate. The best way is to always talk about principles not personalities. Sacramento, CA We can point out very effectively what is happening without name-calling, and certainly without shouting from the rooftops that this priest, this bishop, this society or association is in mortal sin mostly because we dont like what they have done in particular circumstances. Dear Louie, Do you have any insight on this? Listening to audio sancto raised much concern for me a long, long ago. Where to begin? Tulsa, OK Voris linked directly to the FSSP site in Scotland in his attacks on Catholics in the SSPX. A few years ago, there was a large national media initiative to reach out to lapsed Catholics called Catholics Come Home. Dear john6, It was taking the faith seriously that led me to become sedevacantist and it is taking the faith seriously, that my family is going to hell (literally) which led me to break contact with them (as Jesus Christ directs us to do see Matt 18). We have been baptized into Christs death, the greatest act of love ever displayed and graciously made available to all. Beloved husband of Marie (nee Corallo). Louie does a fine job of using his layman status in the correct way, although he steps over the line on occasion. The very word sedevacantist is almost considered profanity. I too have been guilty of using the combox to lay off my personal frustrations, and I have also used uncharitable language. Those who have ears will hear, those who have eyes will see. Voris has, in many cases, exposed the corruption inside the N.O. Hopefully, the non una-cum SSPX priests will make the courageous move after the *nothing* in October. You are supporting evil. Dear grandfather of. FSSP NA on YouTube If interested, you can contact her at 612-450-0273 or gemmarose974@gmail.com. Perhaps bc of those such as yourself who have been poorly & even cruelly treated by a sedevacantist somewhere along the line, some proceed to make vast generalizations. Don't forget to buy yourself a copy here! Those who think this group is the anti-christ will not be moved from that position. The Bishop did not stop Nicholson. http://sspx.org/, Dear marian, But then again, Sister Lucia warned us; didnt she-? The Society and its faithful simply stayed Catholic such as it has always been and always will be in spite of the conciliar revolution. I think it sometimes gives them scruples. ** Thank you for addressing me, dear my2cents. Gruner were very sensational to say the least. Mr. Miguel Flores-Perez ('02), and Rev. If they fail to do their duty then the moral responsibility for the many Mortal sins coming from all of this rest with the leadership of the FSSP and the Bishop of Father Paul Nicholson. make use of all the sacraments in the (old rite) at places like the FFSP , ICKSP etc this is where it can become a little complicated while these places offer all sacraments in the (old rite) they are in what we hear voris and others saying full communion with/under rome meaning that they are under the jurisdiction of the local bishop and cant/dont attack issues like the second vatican council. Look more closely into the factions and personalities in and around Irving that split up Fisher Moore College around 2012-14, and you just may find your answers as to whose motives now motivate whom. http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/truth-about-the-sspx-mc-similar-groups/#.VfzYaN9VhBc. Your question- poignantly phrased- touches on the experience of many a trad. radtrad, Now I suppose he is throwing darts at it. Richmond, VA In the early days of the Novus Ordo priests and some Bishops understood that they had to give that scandal in order to protect souls from sliding into heresy and losing the Faith. or Will they remain under the standard of Satan? Montreal, QC The worst criticism of the SSPX sure comes from the Novus Ordo Traditionalists. North American Martyrs Parish is a Roman Catholic parish in Edmonds, Washington, served by the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP). In any case, the plagiarized text (as alleged in the link above) is taken from a sermon given by Fr. These are the signs of an unstable mind. In allowing myself and others to comment even though louie most probably disagrees with certain things (speaking for myself) shows that louie has great charity and isnt controlled by anyone. But we preach Christ and Him crucified. Gerard Saguto, FSSP and Fr. El Paso, TX My only point was the Church today is in a dire crisis and the antics of Mr. Voris are the least of our problems. That is something to be most thankful for. But the combox is just getting too much. Louie February 22, 2023 Blog Post No Comments. Will the FSSP tell Voris PUBLICLY that he does not have permission to use FSSP sermons in his attacks on other Catholics in print or in audio and that his view that the SSPX is in schism is not the OFFICIAL position of the FSSP? So, what exactly will change at the stroke of twelve? The Pope grants (to what he may consider the schismatic) SSPX jurisdiction to grant absolution. But who gets to determine where the standard of Christ is planted? As this unfolds, we lose sight of the individual trees that make up the forest. This has happened more than once in America. 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